Good Morning Oppo

"boredalways" (boredalway666) 08/10/2018 at 07:39 • Filed to: good morning oppo, Toyota, Supra, Supra evolution

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So wait, the new Supra is using BMW’s turbo I-6 from the M240i!?!?!?

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > boredalways 08/10/2018 at 07:43

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yes

Discerning > boredalways 08/10/2018 at 07:55

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Ye s. The B58 is an all aluminum, closed deck, in line 6, with a single twin-scroll turbo and direct injection. Toyota should consider themselves lucky to use it, despite all of the delusional Toyota fans who think a 2JZ would be better.

Ash78, voting early and often > boredalways 08/10/2018 at 08:50

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Is this the future? I know we’ve long  had things like Vibe/Matrix thanks to Nummi and GM, but in the past few years it seems to have accelerated. FRS/BRZ, that Mercedes/Infiniti QXhatchback, M 240/Supra.

Textured Soy Protein > boredalways 08/10/2018 at 09:09

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This is news to you? There have been spy sightings of the thing testing alongside the new Z4 for like 3 years or something. 

Derpwagon > boredalways 08/10/2018 at 09:39

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Zero interest in this car because german stuff in it. 

LongbowMkII > Discerning 08/10/2018 at 09:53

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I don’t think a 2jz would be better, but I’m certain a clean sheet I6 from Toyota would be. 

boredalways > Textured Soy Protein 08/10/2018 at 10:57

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I'm talking about the choice of engine

boredalways > Ash78, voting early and often 08/10/2018 at 10:58

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Don't forget AMG/Aston Martin

Ash78, voting early and often > boredalways 08/10/2018 at 11:01

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Or the Aston Cygnet :D

boredalways > Derpwagon 08/10/2018 at 11:05

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Too bad Toyota couldn’t have just lobbed off half of a 1LR-GUE (LFA engine), slap a turbo on it, and call it the day, right?*

*yes, I know it's crazy talk

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > boredalways 08/10/2018 at 12:20

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or just stick the LFA engine in one...

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > boredalways 08/10/2018 at 12:26

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“ Chopping engines in half is sane and normal and how dare you say otherwise” - Pontiac

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > boredalways 08/10/2018 at 12:29

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Is n’ t that what happened with the Guilias v6?

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > Derpwagon 08/10/2018 at 13:02

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Zero interest because no manual transmission and unobtanium pricing

Mercedes Streeter > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/10/2018 at 13:48

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“Why go with a sophisticated inexpensive engine when you can just take an engine off the shelf and slice it in half for significantly more money ?”

- Harley Davidson on the Buell Blast.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Mercedes Streeter 08/10/2018 at 14:07

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At least the Pontiac was cheap bastardry. And sure it was the living essence of NVH made flesh and cast into cold iron, but it was tough enough to supercharge.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Mercedes Streeter 08/10/2018 at 14:08

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For even more horrifying - I mean interesting fun, see this:

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2011/01/03/mickey-thompson-twin-tempest/

Die-Trying > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/10/2018 at 15:48

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- “been doing it for years”- international

Discerning > LongbowMkII 08/10/2018 at 19:10

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I don’t know. The B58 is a very nice engine. Maybe Toyota could do better, but I haven’t seen anything to indicate as much. The 2JZ is robust, but it’s not really great in regard to handling and motorsports. Upright, heavy, long, does not like to rev, wet sump, etc. Its great for drag racing because of the iron block and closed deck, but that’s about it. Even the S50 and S38 from BMW have performed decently on a drag strip.

I would regard the S54 and S55 as better inline 6s than what Toyota has created. Even the B58 surpasses any inline 6 Toyota has made. In all fairness, they haven't made an inline 6 in a while of course.